Ron Paul wins Florida Republican Debate, McCain stumbles on Economy

Stu Norman
Point Spreads
Friday January 25, 2008

There was a strong anti war pro Ron Paul crowd in the Florida Primary Republican Debate audience on the campus of Florida Atlantic University in Boca Raton, Florida tonight. Results from a MSNBC post debate text messaging poll showed Ron Paul leading before the network decided not to post the official results at the end of the post-debate coverage. The move clearly gets conspiracy theorists abuzz on the Ron Paul posting forums. There was no doubt once again that the clear winner of the debate was Ron Paul. has Ron Paul at 25 to 1 odds to capture the 2008 Republican Party Presidential Nomination.

“We are moving into a new era,” stated Dr. Ron Paul.

Paul has yet to win a primary but his second place finish in the Nevada Caucus followed by his second place in yesterday’s Louisiana Caucus has boosted his campaign. Republican Presidential hopefuls such as John McCain, Mike Huckabee and Rudy Guiliani do not have the dough to survive that far beyond Florida giving Paul a nice advantage to outlast the other lower tiered candidates and gobble up some of their support once they leave the race.

Unlike the Democratic Party debate for the South Carolina Primary race, the Republicans had a nonaggression pact before the start of the Florida Primary debate. All of the candidates were cordial and refrained from attacking each other. Another difference between the two debates were the stances on the Iraqi War. It was very clear that all of the Republican Candidates, with the except of anti-war candidate Paul, will go into fall Presidential Race saying the war in Iraqi was worth it. It is looking more and more like it will be a PRO WAR vs ANTI WAR Presidential Race in 2008.

If Republican Presidential front runner John McCain wins the Florida Republican Primary, he should lock up the Republican Party’s 2008 Presidential Nomination. has John McCain at 4 to 7 odds to secure the 2008 Republican Presidential Nomination. The elder statesmen with the silver hair stumbled tonight when he was asked a question on the United States Economy by Ron Paul.

McCain has been endorsement by former New York Senator Alfonse D’Amato, a blow to Guiliani campaign. The endorsement could be a sign that the Poker Player Alliance is making some head way against the current “War on Internet Gambling ” taking place in Washington. The Poker Players Alliance (PPA) is an American nonprofit Interest group of over 840,000 members that was formed “to speak with one voice to promote poker, ensure its integrity, and, most importantly, to protect the players’ rights.” The PPA formed to serve as an advocacy group to Washington in order to establish a legal framework of rights and protections for United States online poker players. Alfonse D’Amato is chairman of the PPA.

The Rudy Guiliani campaign got another dagger when the New York Times endorsed John McCain saying “he is ready to be president…it is a difficult era….he can beat Hillary Clinton.”

All of these endorsements, including the recent one from Rambo, won’t help McCain with the GOP conservative base which does not like him. A lost in the Florida Primary will certainly be a blow to the cash strapped candidate who needs a win or strong finish to secure additional campaign contributions. Mitt Romney has already spent $40 million dollars of his own funds for his campaign and has plenty more to pour in if needed.

Full article here.


12 Responses to “Ron Paul wins Florida Republican Debate, McCain stumbles on Economy”

  1. Max Says:

    The GOP showdown is going to come down to Paul VS Romney. Giuliani is dead without a first place victory in Florida and that is not likely to happen. Huckabee is absolutely looney with his ideas about changing the Constitution and has no money left. McCain also has no money left. If Romney gets the nomination we will absolutely have a Democratic president based on the war alone. If Dr. Paul wins, everyone wins. The entire world wins. The U.S. gets to end the war, bring the troops home, save the economy, restore the Constitution, and end the war with violent radicals bent on killing us because of our military presence on their (holy) land.

  2. Robbie Says:

    It’s clear that the nation is not in favor of continuing this war in Iraq or else where in the world. To combat terrorism, police type action is needed, not military.

    Ron Paul is a visionary, who warned about the down turn in our economy for years and is warning now that we are about to go into a new era. It’s up to the American public to decide what that era is going to look like, a police state, or a free country ready to work together for the future.

    I support Ron Paul because he has a muture and honest plan for our future and knows, through experience, what he is talking about. I would like to advise all Americans who are looking toward this countries future and the future they would want for their children, to support Ron Paul.

  3. Ron Paul Fan Says:

    Ron Paul did not win the debate.
    Just because there was a lot of Ron Paul fans at the debate, does not mean he won. Honestly, I don’t think he had a chance to win because he only got to speak about 1/4 as much as the other candidates.
    As to the poll, the reason they don’t show the results is because the RonBots hijack it everytime. The results will never be true or accurate as long as the RonBots are out there flooding the polls.

  4. Bill Says:

    This is a pretty funny article. 🙂 Haha! 🙂

  5. Bleep Says:

    On the contrary, it is obvious how many republicans want to continue with the war. It’s unbelievable.
    I wish Ron would have attack Romney with the economy question. Romney claims to be strong with the economy because he run a business. And with the economy going south, Paul should have exposed romney of his incompetence in order to place himself as the only one with real economic solutions.
    I love how Huckabee is been stealing Ron economic idea. He is now saying that the Fed should not be printing money because it causes inflation. What a rip off.

  6. Louis Nardozi Says:

    It is well known by now that Dr. Paul (who has written 6 books on economics) and stands head and shoulders over the other candidates as an economist. Why do you think the ‘cool’ candidates denigrate him (except for Huckabee who copies his homework)? Every other candidate speaks in vague generalities.
    Dr. Paul WILL put thousands of REAL dollars in YOUR pocket. Wanna see how?
    Dr. Paul’s 4 point economic stimulus plan even includes legislation and is viewable online. Just click on my name!

  7. 2008voter Says:

    to max:

    ‘The U.S. gets to end the war, bring the troops home,”
    i do agree ; ‘The U.S. gets to end the war, bring the troops home,”
    but what does it mean to ” end the war”? Win the war? bring the troops home buy winning the war? or loose the war and bring the troops home by loosing the war for the sace of Paul’s and Obama’s and Ben ladens political ambitions ? ( Gop versus Dems scenario)

  8. 2008voter Says:

    I am a Floridian i will vote Tuesday in my view Paul won nothing he was a demagogue he became even bigger demagogue after this dedate

  9. frodo441 Says:

    Leave it to Florida…some of the wakiest things come out of Florida, I’m afraid to admit it but it seems Florida even functions somewhere beyond an Elysian field of dreams…no slight on Florida per say, but you’ve got to admit of all the inane atrocious things ever to hit the papers at the exact best worst time always seems to happen in Florida…what is that…

  10. Fred Says:

    If you don’t have any evidence of flooding your own poll, then post it, or don’t have one. The media does not report the news, they report an agenda. The only reason they let Paul on the debates is to make him look foolish, his questions are always weighted toward a negative, and everytime a questioner questions him, he looks constipated and angry. Just a comment from an unbiased observer who acutally hasn’t made up his mind yet. But I have to think if the media doesn’t want him to win, the American people should.

  11. Monkey Man Says:

    You can’t “flood” polls when modern internet polling systems only allow one vote per IP address. The only real explanation is that Ron has more supporters who take the time to show how much they believe in his candidacy. The rest of the warmongering bunch only get votes because the sheeple are lazy and vote for whoever gets the most face time on TV.

  12. The Hedonistic Pleasureseeker Says:

    Ron Bots? Isn’t “flooding the polls” a part of the whole POINT? The logic here escapes me.

    Sample discussion:

    Joe: Looks like Reagan won the Presidency. Look at all the states he carried! Looks like nobody wants Carter for a second term.

    Tim: That doesn’t mean anything. All these Reagan fanatics showed up at the polls and ruined the results!


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